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obama spoke mostly to the moderator, jim lehrer of pbs. >> we still have trillion dollar deficits. the cbo says we'll have a trillion dollar deficit each of the next four years. >> reporter: these two men, they are virtually strangers to each other personally. they've only met in person three times before tonight. most recently, in passing, on a debate stage in new hampshire way back in 2008, when republicans followed democrats in debate three days before the primaries. and there was this brief encounter on the campaign trail in 2007. >> good luck to you today. >> reporter: and while they have both reached the pinnacle of party politics, they are so different. their talents and their paths to power and their debate styles. so much at stake on that stage tonight. this showdown comes at what might be the critical moment in this campaign. a hinge of political history. polls show the race tightening, just 34 days left in this campaign. and you can already sense in the crowds the special energy of the home stretch. but tonight, surprisingly, and in contrast to the daily scrap on the tra
obama spoke mostly to the moderator, jim lehrer of pbs. >> we still have trillion dollar deficits. the cbo says we'll have a trillion dollar deficit each of the next four years. >> reporter: these two men, they are virtually strangers to each other personally. they've only met in person three times before tonight. most recently, in passing, on a debate stage in new hampshire way back in 2008, when republicans followed democrats in debate three days before the primaries. and there...
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jim, you're on the trail with the romney campaign. what's the reaction to the latest polling, because republicans were complaining about these polls as soon as last week. now the poll is good news for them. are they complaining? >> well, anderson, i have to tell you i just saw mitt romney standing out in a drenching rain in newport news just a couple hours ago and he still had a smile on his face. they're pretty happy. they have not seen poll numbers like this in some time. i have to tell you, i talked to a senior romney advisor about this pew research center poll and they look at a couple things here. in relation to these polls. they are looking at the enthusiasm that is coming out at some of their campaign events. i can tell you, we have been at several of these campaign events over the last several days and they are getting some big turnouts, sometimes in excess of 10,000 people, and while yes, that may not be obama campaign numbers, those are good numbers for mitt romney. another thing that they're looking at, they are looking at
jim, you're on the trail with the romney campaign. what's the reaction to the latest polling, because republicans were complaining about these polls as soon as last week. now the poll is good news for them. are they complaining? >> well, anderson, i have to tell you i just saw mitt romney standing out in a drenching rain in newport news just a couple hours ago and he still had a smile on his face. they're pretty happy. they have not seen poll numbers like this in some time. i have to tell...
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give me jim leher over that nonsense any day. coming up. if you were one of the people who declared a winner after watching last night's debate i'm going to ask you to reconsider after tonight's rewrite. and paul ryan will have the time he needs to explain his medicine careplan. and mitt romney says he is going to pay for his tax cuts for the wealthy by cutting 1, 100th of 1% of the federal budget. that is right. mitt romney wants to fire big bird. capella university understands businesses are trying to come back from rough economic times. employees are being forced to do more with less. and the need for capable leaders is greater than ever. when you see these problems do you take a step back, or do you want to dive right in? with a degree in business from capella university, you'll have the knowledge to go further in your career than you ever thought possible. let's get started at capella.edu >>> john mccain has been dead wrong on the fundamental issues relating to the conduct of the war. barack obama has been right. they are the facts. >>
give me jim leher over that nonsense any day. coming up. if you were one of the people who declared a winner after watching last night's debate i'm going to ask you to reconsider after tonight's rewrite. and paul ryan will have the time he needs to explain his medicine careplan. and mitt romney says he is going to pay for his tax cuts for the wealthy by cutting 1, 100th of 1% of the federal budget. that is right. mitt romney wants to fire big bird. capella university understands businesses are...
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jim, are you abandoning sprint? because t mobil is not going to buy them. i'm jcram jim kramer and i will you tomorrow. larry, what are you looking at tonight? >> mitt romney floats and idea to cap keyductions across the board. we set up our own debate. those are the topics we are going to tackle. and this evening. listen to vice president joe biden on the trail. it is the gift that keeps on giving. >> how they can justify. raising taxes in the middle class. it has been buried in the last four years. how in the lord's name. >> that is nodt a froidian slip. plus three stories that happen to break before the election. a leftist new york attorneyy general looking to bash banks and that is as phony as a $3 bill. also a judge strikes down pennsylvania's voter id law and the obama administration is telling companies it is okay to disregard the law when it comes to handing out pink slips in advance to big budget cuts. all three happening before the election. mitt romney has finally put meat on the bones of his tax reform idea. he floated the idea of a $17,000 cap
jim, are you abandoning sprint? because t mobil is not going to buy them. i'm jcram jim kramer and i will you tomorrow. larry, what are you looking at tonight? >> mitt romney floats and idea to cap keyductions across the board. we set up our own debate. those are the topics we are going to tackle. and this evening. listen to vice president joe biden on the trail. it is the gift that keeps on giving. >> how they can justify. raising taxes in the middle class. it has been buried in...
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romney: thank you, jim. i'm pleased to be at the university of denver, appreciate their welcome and also the presidential commission on these debates. and congratulations to you, mr. president, on your anniversary. i'm sure this was the most romantic place you could imagine, here with me. [laughter] so congratulations. this is, obviously, a very tender topic. i've had the occasion over the last couple of years of meeting people across the country. i was in dayton, ohio, and a woman said i've been out of work since may, can you help me? ann yesterday was at a rally in ten very, and a woman came up to her with a baby in her arms and said, ann, my husband has had four jobs in three years, part-time jobs. he's lost his most recent job, and we have now just lost our home. can you help us x. the answer is, yes, we can help. but it's going to take a different path. not the one we've been on, not the one the president droibs as a top- describes as a top-down cut taxes for the rich. that's not what i'm going to do. m
romney: thank you, jim. i'm pleased to be at the university of denver, appreciate their welcome and also the presidential commission on these debates. and congratulations to you, mr. president, on your anniversary. i'm sure this was the most romantic place you could imagine, here with me. [laughter] so congratulations. this is, obviously, a very tender topic. i've had the occasion over the last couple of years of meeting people across the country. i was in dayton, ohio, and a woman said i've...
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. >> jim buckley? he's engaging and honest man who hasn't the soggiest notion what the 20th century is all about. >> now, massachusetts voters have to decide who knows what the 21st century is all about. the republican center who thinks there is no difference between justice scalia and justice sotmayor. or the professor. history is on the professor's side. professor moynihan knocked the incumbent out of the senate. running against a harvard professor is harder than scott brown thinks it is. >>> coming up, in tonight's rewrite, the cast of "the west wing" will teach mitt romney how to win the debate. now, the question you have to ask yourself, with 23 hours to go until the debate, how fast a learner is mitt romney? [ male announcer ] the 2013 smart comes with 8 airbags, a crash management system and the world's only tridion safety cell which can withstand over three and a half tons. small in size. big on safety. with the blackish-blue frame and the white dots and the splattered paint pattern, your light
. >> jim buckley? he's engaging and honest man who hasn't the soggiest notion what the 20th century is all about. >> now, massachusetts voters have to decide who knows what the 21st century is all about. the republican center who thinks there is no difference between justice scalia and justice sotmayor. or the professor. history is on the professor's side. professor moynihan knocked the incumbent out of the senate. running against a harvard professor is harder than scott brown...
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president obama wilted whenever -- >> greta: but they plameed jim lehrer. >> jim lehrer did exactly what he said it was -- he wassing did to do. he is know a new person. we know how he moderates debates. the commission is made of republicans and democrats, they picked jim lehrer, he asked non-confrontational, non-gotcha questions. believe me, if the president had snappy responses and brought up bain capital and 47% and the things that made the democrats happy, they would not be complaining about jim lehrer today. >> they want to have a scapegoat. they want to blame something for president obama's debate performance. jim lehrer happens to be it. i think he did almost as good a job as i think one could do. the job of the moderator is to make sure that the candidates engage one another and engage with substance. when that's happening, you need to melt into the background -- i >> greta: stay invisible. >> that's exactly what he dirks as long as the issues are being discussed, you are invisible and you try to give equal time. president obama got 4 more minutes of talk time than governor romne
president obama wilted whenever -- >> greta: but they plameed jim lehrer. >> jim lehrer did exactly what he said it was -- he wassing did to do. he is know a new person. we know how he moderates debates. the commission is made of republicans and democrats, they picked jim lehrer, he asked non-confrontational, non-gotcha questions. believe me, if the president had snappy responses and brought up bain capital and 47% and the things that made the democrats happy, they would not be...
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i believe in competition. >> jim, if i can respond very quickly. first of all, every study has shown medicare has lower administrative costs than private insurance does, which is why seniors are generally pretty happy with it, and private insurance has to make a profit. nothing wrong, that's what they do. and so you have higher administrative costs, plus profit, on top of that. and if you are going to save any money through what governor romney is proposing, what has to happen, the money has to come from somewhere. and when you move to a voucher system, you are putting seniors at the mercy of those insurance companies, and over time if traditional medicare has decayed or fallen apart, they are stuck. and this is the reason why aarp has said that your plan would weaken substantially and that's why they were supportive of the approach that we took. one last point i want to make. we do have to lower the cost of health care, not just in medicare and medicaid. but overall. >> we'll talk about that in a minute. >> that's a big topic. can we stay on medic
i believe in competition. >> jim, if i can respond very quickly. first of all, every study has shown medicare has lower administrative costs than private insurance does, which is why seniors are generally pretty happy with it, and private insurance has to make a profit. nothing wrong, that's what they do. and so you have higher administrative costs, plus profit, on top of that. and if you are going to save any money through what governor romney is proposing, what has to happen, the money...
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let's solve this. >> i'm sorry, jim. i'm going to stop the subsidy to pbs. i like pbs. i love big bird. i like you too. but i'm not going to borrow money from china to pay for it. >> mitt romney picked the fight with the wrong bird. >> do you have any political statement you would like to make? >> no. i don't want to ruffle any feathers. >> but big bird has defenders who are ready to ruffle feathers. >> at a time when the public is rightly concerned about the impact of sex and violence on tv, this administration is going to protect the muppets, wall street week and by god, we are going to protect julia child. >> those were the days, huh? i want to let you in on my performance tricks here. see, they leave this for every guest up here. the name, but it also has a little note here that that guess is on set. you know what? it's richard schiff, who needs it. >> i want to keep that as a souvenir. >> "the west wing" lives for ever. it turns out there you were defending pbs and big bird years before the romney attack. when that moment came in the debate, did you flash back to "
let's solve this. >> i'm sorry, jim. i'm going to stop the subsidy to pbs. i like pbs. i love big bird. i like you too. but i'm not going to borrow money from china to pay for it. >> mitt romney picked the fight with the wrong bird. >> do you have any political statement you would like to make? >> no. i don't want to ruffle any feathers. >> but big bird has defenders who are ready to ruffle feathers. >> at a time when the public is rightly concerned about the...
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an honorable mention for a nonpolitician goes to pbs's jim lehrer. this year will be his 11th appearance as a moderator of a presidential debate. barack obama, assuming we go through all three debates will tie bush for that record six. [ male announcer ] after years of celebrations, marie callender's gives you a way to make any day a special occasion. new mini cream pies for one. real whip cream and a cookie-crumb crust. marie callender's. it's time to savor. [ male announcer ] jill and her mouth have lived a great life. but she has some dental issues she's not happy about. so i introduced jill to crest pro-health for life. selected for people over 50. pro-health for life is a toothpaste that defends against tender, inflamed gums, sensitivity and weak enamel. conditions people over 50 experience. crest pro-health for life. so jill can keep living the good life. crest. life opens up when you do. >>> this is part every a new ad for american crossroads, the super pac, they are launching this tv ad in eight states, the biggest ad in the cycle. let's brin
an honorable mention for a nonpolitician goes to pbs's jim lehrer. this year will be his 11th appearance as a moderator of a presidential debate. barack obama, assuming we go through all three debates will tie bush for that record six. [ male announcer ] after years of celebrations, marie callender's gives you a way to make any day a special occasion. new mini cream pies for one. real whip cream and a cookie-crumb crust. marie callender's. it's time to savor. [ male announcer ] jill and her...
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. >> you sound like jim cramer. [ laughter ] >> we're both from philly. seriously, though, my argument is here -- you can say what you want, from this [ muted ] where we go and focus on the big issues that separate these two candidates. your thoughts, bob shrum? that first debate was toesed to be about domestic issues. none of those issues came up. i think in the next debate, in the town hall format, the president has to make sure they're front and center. it's about what's said day after day after day. >> right. i would add one issue to the list you gave. the president has to win this medicare issues. seniors are too critical a voting bloc to let romney tell the lie that $716 billion was tut from medicare benefits. >> do you agree with us, i think from a different perspective. this election is about big issues, not who is a better debater. >> i think it's to really -- for the people of the country or the people controlling and deciding their own fate. that's what it boils down to. the american people have a chance to really see where these two gentlemen
. >> you sound like jim cramer. [ laughter ] >> we're both from philly. seriously, though, my argument is here -- you can say what you want, from this [ muted ] where we go and focus on the big issues that separate these two candidates. your thoughts, bob shrum? that first debate was toesed to be about domestic issues. none of those issues came up. i think in the next debate, in the town hall format, the president has to make sure they're front and center. it's about what's said day...
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moderator jim lehrer will start each segment off by asking a question. he will give each candidate two minutes to answer the question, and then they'll use the remainder of the time to have a discussion about the topic at hand. so that's how it's going to work. of course, both of these candidates putting the final touches on their debate preparations. they're being incredibly tight-lipped, which, of course, is frustrating to those of us in the media about how exactly these debate preparations are going but both ann romney and first lady michelle obama will be there tomorrow night in denver. one more interesting note, martin, it is the first couple's 20th anniversary tomorrow night. they will be together, they will be together in denver, and they will have a proper celebration this weekend. >> wow. celebrating and working at the same time. nbc's kristin welker. thanks so much. we'll be right back. [ male announcer ] eligible for medicare? that's a good thing, but it doesn't cover everything. only about 80% of your part b medical expenses. the rest is up t
moderator jim lehrer will start each segment off by asking a question. he will give each candidate two minutes to answer the question, and then they'll use the remainder of the time to have a discussion about the topic at hand. so that's how it's going to work. of course, both of these candidates putting the final touches on their debate preparations. they're being incredibly tight-lipped, which, of course, is frustrating to those of us in the media about how exactly these debate preparations...
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. >> jim, if i can just respond very quickly. first of all, every study has shown that medicare has lower administrative costs than private insurance does, which is why seniors are generally pretty happy with it. and private insurers have to make a profit. nothing wrong with that. that's what they do. and so you've got higher administrative costs, plus profit, on top of that, and if you are going to save any money through what governor romney's proposing, what has to happen is that the money has to come from somewhere. and when you move to a voucher system, you are putting seniors at the mercy of those insurance companies, and over time, if traditional medicare has decayed or fallen apart, then they're stuck. and this is the reason why aarp has said that your plan would weaken medicare, substantially, and that's why they were supportive of the approach that we took. one last point i want to make. we do have to lower the cost of health care. not just in medicare -- >> in a minute. >> but overall. >> okay. >> that's a big topic. >>
. >> jim, if i can just respond very quickly. first of all, every study has shown that medicare has lower administrative costs than private insurance does, which is why seniors are generally pretty happy with it. and private insurers have to make a profit. nothing wrong with that. that's what they do. and so you've got higher administrative costs, plus profit, on top of that, and if you are going to save any money through what governor romney's proposing, what has to happen is that the...
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i'm jim cramer. see you tomorrow. larry, what are you looking at tonight? >>> a little profit-taking is a good thing because in the long run, we are coming into a growth revolution that's going to blow this market sky high. good evening, everyone. i'm larry kudlow. this is "the kudlow report." top story tonight, for the first time, president obama admits he was a disaster at the debate. take a listen to what he told abc's diane sawyer that's airing just minutes ago. >> governor romney had a good night. i had a bad night. it's not -- >> bad? >> it's not the first time i've had a bad night. >> they chant "four more years." and today, there are 28 days before the election. i think the right chant ought to be for them "four more weeks." you've got the idea. >> there you have it. also this evening, for the first time in months, the market hit a back-to-back triple-digit decline. we warned you last night earnings might give the market a little bit of a hit. go ahead, boys. take some chips off the table. nothing wrong with that. but let me tell you, a political re
i'm jim cramer. see you tomorrow. larry, what are you looking at tonight? >>> a little profit-taking is a good thing because in the long run, we are coming into a growth revolution that's going to blow this market sky high. good evening, everyone. i'm larry kudlow. this is "the kudlow report." top story tonight, for the first time, president obama admits he was a disaster at the debate. take a listen to what he told abc's diane sawyer that's airing just minutes ago. >>...
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two-minute statements, they're each going to get two minutes at the beginning of the subjects that jim leherer will introduce. and discussing not policing 30-second rebuttals and 60-second statements. none of that red light stuff with the clocks and all of that stuff. and when you're in mitt romney's position, where he's actually trying to hide some things, trying to hide the details of the deduction side of his tax plan, he's still hiding his tax returns. when you're that candidate who has things that you don't want to talk about, those very narrow rules are your friend. the red light is your friend. the very limited 30-second response, 60-second response works well for candidate who trying to dodge and trying to get away from things. president obama, i think is going to have an advantage in the way the non-rules are in this debate tonight. and i also think that mitt romney has come off a series of really easy debates. we have to remember, mitt romney triumphed in a republican presidential field that was the worst republican presidential field in the history of the republican party. t
two-minute statements, they're each going to get two minutes at the beginning of the subjects that jim leherer will introduce. and discussing not policing 30-second rebuttals and 60-second statements. none of that red light stuff with the clocks and all of that stuff. and when you're in mitt romney's position, where he's actually trying to hide some things, trying to hide the details of the deduction side of his tax plan, he's still hiding his tax returns. when you're that candidate who has...
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let's bring in jim acosta, who is with the romney campaign in ohio, jim? >> reporter: hi, kate, that's right -- >> it's been a staple of mn's recent stump speeches, the gop nominee talking about soldiers who have inspired him. >> i met some wonderful people. one was a former navy seal, and he -- we chatted for awhile. >> at three events in the last two days, romney has gotten choked up. >> it touched me obviously as i recognized this young man that i thought was so impressive lost his life. >> as he hailed the bravery of glenn doroghty. >> they went there. >> within an hour of his last telling of the story, his aides confirm that's he is dropping at anecdote. doherty said i don't trust romney, he should not use my son in his campaign. and it was said by the campaign that governor romney was inspired by meeting him, but we respect her wishes. he started last thursday when he talked about meeting a widow. she said chris died for them to be able to protest. she said she was humbled by romney's gesture adding that her husband used to say he needed a new presid
let's bring in jim acosta, who is with the romney campaign in ohio, jim? >> reporter: hi, kate, that's right -- >> it's been a staple of mn's recent stump speeches, the gop nominee talking about soldiers who have inspired him. >> i met some wonderful people. one was a former navy seal, and he -- we chatted for awhile. >> at three events in the last two days, romney has gotten choked up. >> it touched me obviously as i recognized this young man that i thought was so...
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the word for romney was medicare, and the roared for jim lehrer was -- [mum mumbling] >> greta: that's your lt
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i'm sorry, jim, i'm going to stop the subsidy to pbs. i like pbs, i love big bird. i actually like you, too. i'm not going to keep spending bhun on thi money on things -- >> let's -- >> let's get back to medicare. the president said the government could provide it at a lower cost without a profit. let's -- >> let's not. let's let him respond. let's let him respond to this specific on dodd/frank and what the governor just said. >> massachusetts governor mitt romney rolling over the debate moderator, jim lehrer, of pbs last night during the first presidential debate of this campaign season. joining us now for the interview is dan rather, host of "dan rather reports" on access tv. anchor of cbs' "evening news" for 20 years and a veteran observer of the campaigns. thank you. >> always a pleasure to be here. >> what is your reaction overall to the debate last night? i am assuming you think mitt romney won the debate. what do you think is important about it? >> i think what's important about it is it gives governor romney a answchance to get a se look from the electorate.
i'm sorry, jim, i'm going to stop the subsidy to pbs. i like pbs, i love big bird. i actually like you, too. i'm not going to keep spending bhun on thi money on things -- >> let's -- >> let's get back to medicare. the president said the government could provide it at a lower cost without a profit. let's -- >> let's not. let's let him respond. let's let him respond to this specific on dodd/frank and what the governor just said. >> massachusetts governor mitt romney...
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hey, there, jim. >> hi, kate, yes. you can tell that the romney campaign is in the mood to celebrate. this rally that they're about to have in virginia is starting to sound like a party. trace adkins the country music star will be out on stage to warm up this crowd for the gop ticket. but today was really the debate after the debate. i don't remember why mitt romney did so well against president obama, but whether or not the gop nominee's words were accurate. mitt romney took his victory lap after the first presidential debate receiving a sustained standing ovation during a surprise visit to a conference of conservatives in denver. >> i saw the president's vision as trickle down government. and i don't think that's what america believes in. i see, instead, a prosperity that comes through freedom. >> reporter: it didn't take long after the debate was finished for the romney campaign to turn the spin room into the win room. are you declaring victory? >> jim, if this was a boxing match, the referee would have called it. >
hey, there, jim. >> hi, kate, yes. you can tell that the romney campaign is in the mood to celebrate. this rally that they're about to have in virginia is starting to sound like a party. trace adkins the country music star will be out on stage to warm up this crowd for the gop ticket. but today was really the debate after the debate. i don't remember why mitt romney did so well against president obama, but whether or not the gop nominee's words were accurate. mitt romney took his victory...
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some sound from my old friend jim rogers on the new cnbc.com's futures now earlier today. i think jimmy misses the romney boat. but here's what he said. >> it doesn't matter, jack, whether it's romney or obama. they're both the same. they don't have a clue what's going on. they caused the problems. these are the guys that got us into this situation. you think going to get us out? >> all right, jimmy is an old pal of mine and a real smart guy but i think he got that whole story wrong. jeff, let us assume, purely hypothetical. not asking you for any partisan things. let us assume mitt romney wins the race. would you have a different investment strategy, would you buy different stocks and groups than if romney lost? >> i think so, larry. today is a great example. coal up a lot. you had the hospitals certainly a group that would do better under obama underperforming today. take a look at some others. hmos, big banks likely to do much better under a romney white house and romney led heads of regulatory agencies than for the hospitals, diagnostic labs or home builders. >> becaus
some sound from my old friend jim rogers on the new cnbc.com's futures now earlier today. i think jimmy misses the romney boat. but here's what he said. >> it doesn't matter, jack, whether it's romney or obama. they're both the same. they don't have a clue what's going on. they caused the problems. these are the guys that got us into this situation. you think going to get us out? >> all right, jimmy is an old pal of mine and a real smart guy but i think he got that whole story...
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thank you jim. >> thank you governor, thank you mr. president. >> the next debate will be on thursday october 11th. for now from the university of denver, i'm jim lehrer, thank you and good night. >> that's the end of the first presidential debate between governor romney of massachusetts and president obama. you see both men being greeted by their wives on stage. even this portion of the debate is negotiated ahead of time by the campaigns in terms of which members of their family will be joining them on stage. this is, these these are negotiated down to this level of detail. in terms of how the overall debate unfolded, i personally do not know who won this debate. i do feel that we saw this debate format die a very painful death on camera tonight. the contrast between the candidates was stylistic as much as substantive. president obama i think calm and basically explanatory tonight. governor romney, more hyper, and i don't mean that in a negative way, just sort of more amped, more assertive. and that manifests in a way that the debate
thank you jim. >> thank you governor, thank you mr. president. >> the next debate will be on thursday october 11th. for now from the university of denver, i'm jim lehrer, thank you and good night. >> that's the end of the first presidential debate between governor romney of massachusetts and president obama. you see both men being greeted by their wives on stage. even this portion of the debate is negotiated ahead of time by the campaigns in terms of which members of their...
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man who knows quite a lot about mitt romney's debate preparation, his senior advisor, former senator jim tallent. welcome to you. >> good to be with you, piers. >> how is he getting on, the candidate? because this is potentially a make or break debate for mitt romney. >> yeah, it certainly is a big debate and a big debate for the country. well, he's worked hard. the president is a good debater and he's been in this -- on this spotlight before, so you know, governor romney is probably a little bit the underdog but i think he's going to be ready. he's going to be ready on the issues which is really what this election's about. >> there's a massive game at the moment of both sides downplaying expectation. so far, even if mitt romney just makes the stage, you guys could declare a triumph and a glorious victory. it's getting a bit ridiculous. the truth is mitt romney spent most of the first half of this year debating, so he should have the advantage, shouldn't he? >> well, i expect him to do well. i don't think -- what an election's about, what this one's about, piers, we can't go on like this
man who knows quite a lot about mitt romney's debate preparation, his senior advisor, former senator jim tallent. welcome to you. >> good to be with you, piers. >> how is he getting on, the candidate? because this is potentially a make or break debate for mitt romney. >> yeah, it certainly is a big debate and a big debate for the country. well, he's worked hard. the president is a good debater and he's been in this -- on this spotlight before, so you know, governor romney is...